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	<title>Comments on: Getting a thick(er) view of ethics</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.justindetmers.com/?p=133&#038;cpage=1#comment-3640</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question Jer, I totally hear ya. I start with the assumption that a change of heart/mind will always precede a change in behavior, I think that&#039;s why I&#039;m abstract so often. ;) But practical things could look things like: 
- Giving money to UNICEF, the Lansing Food Bank, or non-profit organizations like I&#039;ve linked under the &quot;Do Good&quot; heading on my blogroll. 
- Buying fair-trade and boycotting Wal-Mart and other corporations that profit from oppressive labor practices.
- Also, the trips like the ones I&#039;ve done with Riv to Mexico or Minneapolis have had a wonderful emphasis on housing, education, and family systems; all these combat the systemic nature of poverty. And basically everything that Back2Back Ministries does is ethically &quot;thick&quot; and could use supporters &amp; willing souls. 
- Give a needy/broken car-person a ride (which now that think about could get me murdered and should stop this) 
- Buy homeless people food, don&#039;t give cash!
...These are simple ways we can directly &quot;bite&quot; at the issue. But, I also think it&#039;s good to &quot;bark&quot; about these issues to educate people. Consumers and voters have so much untapped potential to shape policy, primarily because we&#039;re in the dark. 
- Influence gov&#039;t (calling a Senator): Gov&#039;t can address, worsen, or ignore inequalities by setting up programs or regulating a fallen world. It&#039;s amazing how the New Deal helped people since the Great Depression or how benevolent programs give people a more level playing field...and then, on the other side of the coin, it&#039;s amazing to see how de-regulation has privileged a few at the expense of so many and effectively widened the gaps between the rich and poor.

A quick and very incomplete thought,

xoxo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Jer, I totally hear ya. I start with the assumption that a change of heart/mind will always precede a change in behavior, I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m abstract so often. <img src='http://www.justindetmers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  But practical things could look things like:<br />
- Giving money to UNICEF, the Lansing Food Bank, or non-profit organizations like I&#8217;ve linked under the &#8220;Do Good&#8221; heading on my blogroll.<br />
- Buying fair-trade and boycotting Wal-Mart and other corporations that profit from oppressive labor practices.<br />
- Also, the trips like the ones I&#8217;ve done with Riv to Mexico or Minneapolis have had a wonderful emphasis on housing, education, and family systems; all these combat the systemic nature of poverty. And basically everything that Back2Back Ministries does is ethically &#8220;thick&#8221; and could use supporters &#038; willing souls.<br />
- Give a needy/broken car-person a ride (which now that think about could get me murdered and should stop this)<br />
- Buy homeless people food, don&#8217;t give cash!<br />
&#8230;These are simple ways we can directly &#8220;bite&#8221; at the issue. But, I also think it&#8217;s good to &#8220;bark&#8221; about these issues to educate people. Consumers and voters have so much untapped potential to shape policy, primarily because we&#8217;re in the dark.<br />
- Influence gov&#8217;t (calling a Senator): Gov&#8217;t can address, worsen, or ignore inequalities by setting up programs or regulating a fallen world. It&#8217;s amazing how the New Deal helped people since the Great Depression or how benevolent programs give people a more level playing field&#8230;and then, on the other side of the coin, it&#8217;s amazing to see how de-regulation has privileged a few at the expense of so many and effectively widened the gaps between the rich and poor.</p>
<p>A quick and very incomplete thought,</p>
<p>xoxo</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.justindetmers.com/?p=133&#038;cpage=1#comment-3639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are some good points here, but I&#039;m getting lost in generalities.  Do you have any specific suggestions or examples of things folks can do to live out what you are talking about?  Sometimes I find it hard to precisely pinpoint specific action points in my life and move forward, especially when it is not a natural point of emphasis for me.  I&#039;ve seen that you have a huge passion for helping those in need, I would love to hear the ways in which that has propelled you to take action.  I&#039;m not asking you to brag yourself up, but it&#039;s always good to connect the philosophy of an idea with a ground level view.
-Jer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some good points here, but I&#8217;m getting lost in generalities.  Do you have any specific suggestions or examples of things folks can do to live out what you are talking about?  Sometimes I find it hard to precisely pinpoint specific action points in my life and move forward, especially when it is not a natural point of emphasis for me.  I&#8217;ve seen that you have a huge passion for helping those in need, I would love to hear the ways in which that has propelled you to take action.  I&#8217;m not asking you to brag yourself up, but it&#8217;s always good to connect the philosophy of an idea with a ground level view.<br />
-Jer</p>
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